I believe Tim could well be post the scans of your picture so you’re able to his site, and can post one to relationship to brand new newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Coats-of-Palms
connections of professionals, (the Wingfields was researched rather well, and even with my typo with the Howard family, I actually do feel the pedigree precisely annotated here in RI) >>
I don’t know this is certainly an exact report. Really does your own book address the newest age group *prior* to John Russell exactly who age the mother and father regarding Age Russell which m Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn wife regarding Malise
I have next so you’re able to complete some of the gaps your show forthe higher-grand-parents away from Reginald le Cheyne. One of the primaryadditions is due to his paternal granny (NN in your post) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de Moray) sexy Cary, NC girl, cousin and you may coheiress off Freskinde Moravia out of Duffus (their unique mothers Walter de- Moravia and you can Euphemia ofRoss arrive less than). There is the question regarding their maternalgrandmother: I hold she are Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd partner regarding Malise,Earl away from Strathearn. This would no less than promote a close explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen regarding Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, as well as Sir David de Graham) beingnamed to have Helen de- Menteith, sis out of Joanna and partner off Sir ColinCampbell of Lochow (d. bef Will get 1343).
Regrettably, In my opinion there are additional openings during the Muriel Keith’sancestry (get a hold of below). As to both improvements advised to the tablesbelow, delight indicates of any listed disputes, otherwise exactly what documentationmight indicate one error noted.
We have openings both in ancestries, but ferociously where of Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their higher-grand-parents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I am not saying alert to any documents giving support to the identity of the partner once the Barbara Seton. When you yourself have noted any, delight advise.
3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain away from Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser married Mary Bruce (otherwise de- Brus), along with an effective young buck John identified as ‘nepos’ out-of Robert _the_Bruce. So it young buck are a younger John, however, rather than their heir. John Fraser, after lord of Aboyne, try the fresh young man from a primary wedding (so it wife unknown; I’ve it towards authority out of Andrew MacEwen).
3 Walter de Moravia (young buck out of Hugh de Moravia, and you will Annabela of Fife) cuatro Euphemia from Ross (dau. out of Fearchar, first Earl of Ross and you will NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de- Menteith (child out of Walter Stewart, E of Menteith and you can
Brand new consanguinity between Muriel Keith and you may Reginald le Cheyne -proven to were an excellent-grandson out-of Malise, Earl regarding Strathearn (d.1312) – is the just proof (if secondary) these a couple of individualshad at least one predecessor/ancestress in common.
I have holes in both ancestries, however, ferociously in that out of Reginald.For Muriel Keith, their own high-grandparents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain out-of Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/seven NN Fraser8 NN
To possess Reginald le Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step 3 NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, 6th Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, from inside the Leicestershire. Age try the new d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Today, I do want to link Agnes to Sir Roger Beler, killed by Eustace de- Folville, but I can’t come across one information about her. Can anybody assist?